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Making the ulitimate Winch ....Ideas please

Postby 4x4SWANNY » Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:10 pm

Ok so i have a ok electric winch 12volt ..But is there a better way.
I have thought of a hydraulic set up...Pump Lines etc Best options...?
PTO but cant seem to find any PTOs for the isuzus... ?
PTO winch run by a electric Motor ...Any one heard or done that..?
Changing Gearbox to run a toyota or Mitsi pajero pto...Options ?


Or does someone have the a great idea thats just has never been told..
Thanks all .....
Oh well, can some one hook up the winch i cant open my door !!!!!!!!!
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Re: Making the ulitimate Winch ....Ideas please

Postby mudslinger » Fri Jun 10, 2011 2:57 pm

wats wrong with electric? hydro is faster but the costs involved is it really worth it? wat brand winch ahve you got?
there are pros and cons but pto i wouldnt look at as cost will be massive. mitsi have pto winches?? electric is smaller wieghs less and less hassles compared to hydro. personally id be sticking with the electric winch.
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Re: Making the ulitimate Winch ....Ideas please

Postby geeves » Fri Jun 10, 2011 3:51 pm

Short of a different gearbox you are out of luck on pto. Hydraulic will run all day as long as the engine is running electric will run only a couple of minutes at a time and although it will run without the engine , at 400 amps it wont do it for very long.
Hydraulic winches start around 2000 and you still need a pump. Dont be fooled into thinking you can use the power steer pump. It does work but slower than a trifor being operated by an octogenarian.
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Re: Making the ulitimate Winch ....Ideas please

Postby 4x4SWANNY » Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:17 pm

Yes some mitsi have factory pto winches... MUD...I have a cheapy gew winch and its ok but slowwwwww
Its my second one as the reduction gears and housing are pretty soft metal and just wear out...
The Amps you talk of geeves are what i think are killing my alternators ...
Its times like this i Wish i was an engineer/metalcaster/ as i would make one... Or adapt something to do the job..
The way i want it done...Oh and i dont like spending money lol...

Keep the suggestions coming there must be MORE...Ideas out there
Oh well, can some one hook up the winch i cant open my door !!!!!!!!!
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9,000 winch, Customers bars all round including twin pipe Rock sliders
Front Guards and up over back wheels.
custom snorkle, Top mount 2nd alt above A/C pump
pro 530 AM CB, Etrex GPS Handheld UHF
TOOLS; 80 mtrs winch ability including winch cable, 2x snatch blocks. Snig/drag chain.
Lowerd front diff, Custom Ali front bash pan, Custom Gearbox to Mid Cross member Bash plate.
Rear trailing arm bracing.
Raised spare wheel holder. Highlift jack mount on back door.
Reinforced tank bash plate.

Re: Making the ulitimate Winch ....Ideas please

Postby muzila » Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:34 pm

get a harder set of gears so they dont wear out. also you may want to get a better or even a second dedicated altinator for a second battery for your winch.
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Re: Making the ulitimate Winch ....Ideas please

Postby mudslinger » Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:26 pm

get a higher amperage alt and as big batt
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Re: Making the ulitimate Winch ....Ideas please

Postby geeves » Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:43 pm

I used to have access to 250 amp alternators. Not cheap and no vacuum pump. Let me know if you want to know if I can still get them.
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Re: Making the ulitimate Winch ....Ideas please

Postby slightlydodgy » Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:07 pm

My winch
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Failing that the 20 ton digger usually works :D
Tremble With Fear I've Just Had an Idea

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Re: Making the ulitimate Winch ....Ideas please

Postby 4x4SWANNY » Sat Jun 11, 2011 6:00 pm

lol Dodgy
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9,000 winch, Customers bars all round including twin pipe Rock sliders
Front Guards and up over back wheels.
custom snorkle, Top mount 2nd alt above A/C pump
pro 530 AM CB, Etrex GPS Handheld UHF
TOOLS; 80 mtrs winch ability including winch cable, 2x snatch blocks. Snig/drag chain.
Lowerd front diff, Custom Ali front bash pan, Custom Gearbox to Mid Cross member Bash plate.
Rear trailing arm bracing.
Raised spare wheel holder. Highlift jack mount on back door.
Reinforced tank bash plate.

Re: Making the ulitimate Winch ....Ideas please

Postby 4x4SWANNY » Sat Jun 11, 2011 6:02 pm

muzila wrote:get a harder set of gears so they dont wear out. also you may want to get a better or even a second dedicated altinator for a second battery for your winch.

I wouldnt know where to start getting harder gears is a cheapy winch runva/ GEW
Oh well, can some one hook up the winch i cant open my door !!!!!!!!!
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9,000 winch, Customers bars all round including twin pipe Rock sliders
Front Guards and up over back wheels.
custom snorkle, Top mount 2nd alt above A/C pump
pro 530 AM CB, Etrex GPS Handheld UHF
TOOLS; 80 mtrs winch ability including winch cable, 2x snatch blocks. Snig/drag chain.
Lowerd front diff, Custom Ali front bash pan, Custom Gearbox to Mid Cross member Bash plate.
Rear trailing arm bracing.
Raised spare wheel holder. Highlift jack mount on back door.
Reinforced tank bash plate.

Re: Making the ulitimate Winch ....Ideas please

Postby 4x4SWANNY » Sat Jun 11, 2011 6:05 pm

geeves wrote:I used to have access to 250 amp alternators. Not cheap and no vacuum pump. Let me know if you want to know if I can still get them.

And yes a higher AMP alt would probably solve the problems..No spare cash at the mo just trying to find good ideas..But thanks geeves
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9,000 winch, Customers bars all round including twin pipe Rock sliders
Front Guards and up over back wheels.
custom snorkle, Top mount 2nd alt above A/C pump
pro 530 AM CB, Etrex GPS Handheld UHF
TOOLS; 80 mtrs winch ability including winch cable, 2x snatch blocks. Snig/drag chain.
Lowerd front diff, Custom Ali front bash pan, Custom Gearbox to Mid Cross member Bash plate.
Rear trailing arm bracing.
Raised spare wheel holder. Highlift jack mount on back door.
Reinforced tank bash plate.

Re: Making the ulitimate Winch ....Ideas please

Postby 4x4SWANNY » Sat Jun 11, 2011 6:10 pm

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Pic i got of a mitsi PTO for the non believers LOL
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9,000 winch, Customers bars all round including twin pipe Rock sliders
Front Guards and up over back wheels.
custom snorkle, Top mount 2nd alt above A/C pump
pro 530 AM CB, Etrex GPS Handheld UHF
TOOLS; 80 mtrs winch ability including winch cable, 2x snatch blocks. Snig/drag chain.
Lowerd front diff, Custom Ali front bash pan, Custom Gearbox to Mid Cross member Bash plate.
Rear trailing arm bracing.
Raised spare wheel holder. Highlift jack mount on back door.
Reinforced tank bash plate.

Re: Making the ulitimate Winch ....Ideas please

Postby geeves » Sat Jun 11, 2011 8:03 pm

I know a few people with these winches. They even seem to handle 6mm 8.8 bolts as shear pins
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Re: Making the ulitimate Winch ....Ideas please

Postby 4x4SWANNY » Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:20 pm

Yes they are a good little winch
Oh well, can some one hook up the winch i cant open my door !!!!!!!!!
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Vehicle: Long wheel Base 93 ubs69 3.1 bighorn
33x12.5 rto3s 15inch off road. 265x75 16s on road.
9,000 winch, Customers bars all round including twin pipe Rock sliders
Front Guards and up over back wheels.
custom snorkle, Top mount 2nd alt above A/C pump
pro 530 AM CB, Etrex GPS Handheld UHF
TOOLS; 80 mtrs winch ability including winch cable, 2x snatch blocks. Snig/drag chain.
Lowerd front diff, Custom Ali front bash pan, Custom Gearbox to Mid Cross member Bash plate.
Rear trailing arm bracing.
Raised spare wheel holder. Highlift jack mount on back door.
Reinforced tank bash plate.


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